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Now that Christmas is done with, let’s stir things up a little. ;)

Muslim’s believe Jesus was born in the Summer, as mentioned in the Qur’an.
Christian’s believe Jesus was born on December 25th, however, this is not mentioned in the bible…
Jehova’s Witnesses believe Jesus was born in October – and they are probably correct.

Isn’t it funny how Religion is so blindly followed by so many, many people? Jesus told his disciples to celebrate his “death”, not his birth – yet (and I include myself in this, as although not religious, I do do “the gift thing” at Christmas), we celebrate his birth. Why?

Well, let me tell you the story of someone:
He was born in a manger to a Virgin mother.
His followers drank wine and ate bread in a ceremony of baptism.
He ate a last supper, with his twelve disciples.
He died, came back seven days later, then rose to heaven.
He was often depicted with a halo over his head.
He is, of course, “Mithras” – an early pagan god, worshipped by the Romans long before the year zero.

 

7 thoughts on “Christianity

  1. Tim says:

    Life tends not to answer to your dreams, it answers to your actions.

    If you want success, love and a comfortable life, I really don’t think dreaming of it is going to produce it. Having the conviction to believe in yourself, rather than something that fails so many people, is far more understandable, logical and intelligent in my eyes.

    I do believe that there was a person, who has turned out to be known as Jesus. Whether he did all we now believe, I don’t know, whether he was the son of God, I don’t know – but neither does anybody else on this earth. My understanding from a logical standpoint is that there may be plenty of stories about a good man, over time those stories merged, dates of those events were lost and they all became attributed to the same individual.

    We are talking about events over 2000 years ago. The church has rewritten the bible many times, so have the Romans. Take the legend of King Arthur, was he man, or myth? He was written about many, many years after he could have possibly existed, and those writings added many things to his legend… History is written very often by those who like to dream, it’s up to those with conviction to make sense of it.

  2. John says:

    Dream be thy friend – conviction be thy devilment!

    Perhaps we are all dust and all things (including values) are relative? If 5 people witness an event perhaps you get 5 different perspectives and timing!

    If the Jesus theorem was just a ruse – it was bloody good – too have lasted this long and perhaps supported by so many – not dissimilar – accounts.

    I don’t know! Witness birth and death, sunrise and sunset, health and embattlement in this human consciousness and maybe wonder at what we don’t yet know.

    One thing I do know is that people who follow their dream tend to be both humble and questioning. I tend to be wary of those who have conviction, in life – generally, politics or religion.

  3. Bob Simpson says:

    Thaks for the info on Mithras, Tim. I looked up Mithras and it seems that he was born on December 25 as well. I guess that the Christian church found that they could recruit the pagans by adopting their traditions.

  4. Tim says:

    That’s exactly right about dictators. The problem is that Christianity has soffered the same fate as many books, yet the stories as they have become are believed with unwavering doubt.

    I have absolutely no problem with people who have faith and you’re absolutely right – Christianity has been extremely successful. No doubt the merging of other festival and faith into it has helped enormously.

    I just wish some of those who I have seen putting their faith in religion were still alive today, or had actually felt benefit through their faith.

    I actually feel quite blessed that I don’t have that faith. I feel much more free because I have to sort things out for myself, or have help from other people. I never have to have my prayers unanswered.

  5. John says:

    Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s “I Have a Dream” speech during the civil rights march on Washington Aug. 28, 1963 – didn’t lack ambition! His choice of words infered an encomapassing – social vision of a better future. Maybe Christains have used accomodation more than revolution in the past – maybe!

    The first thing a dictator does is burn books, rewrite history and choose facts to suit. Who knows what was in the mind of the London bombers – other than the conviction they were so right! And I didn’t believe Tony Blair’s 45 minute claim on Iraq – problem was he did!

    Words can be interchangeable – context and all that but the blog was that religion is or tends to be blind. I think it’s been at its most successful when it has accomodated such as those “Pagan” or anciant festivals!

  6. John says:

    Self – reliance is good! Bloody essential really!

    I know someone called Tim who more than anyone else I know has followed his own path and in doing so has been a catalyst for others no doubt – a hero when he went off to Ireland and now again.

    I’ve seen both menace and salvation in the form or rather the name of religion.

    It does however bring some a tremendous warmth, dignity and fortitude in the most trying of times and a grace and balance in the best of times, that only they could explain.

    That and “a” story of salvation (if a little contrived on timing) is a plenty good reason for a knees up!

  7. Tim says:

    If he’s anything like me, he’s had to learn a lot from his mistakes. He’s also had to rely on family. :)

    Yeah, some people get a lot of goodness from their religion, no doubt.

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